[Aaricia]

Hello Legion Gamers!

Recently, @ZaidH and @DoctorEldritch were talking about KCD Daniel Vávra and his book advice. Before he went on holiday, @DoctorEldritch mentioned that this made him remember, sometime before the release of Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, ESO_Danny took a picture next to KCD 2 script, which was rather impressive:



Daniel Vávra commented that it may probably be the longest script for the game ever including BG3 which currently holds the world record. The game does indeed boast impressive numbers:



He remembered reading somewhere that it is the size of about 25 novels. Is that good? Perhaps. But on the other side, we have Fallout: New Vegas's Josh Sawyer who thinks that most players don't want games "6 times bigger than Skyrim or 8 times bigger than The Witcher 3" and that games do not need to go bigger anymore. Indeed, there are some big games around now that take a lot of time commitment to finish, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 now among them.

So which side are you on? Have we peaked at how big single-player games could and, more crucially, should get, or is there room for growth yet?

[DracoTarot]

@Aaricia That's a lot of paperwork. 😂 I like any game as long as it's worthwhile to play. Big or small, it's all about the aesthetics and storyline.

[DoctorEldritch]

@DracoTarot aesthetics and storyline are all good and well, but sometimes the sheer volume can be overwhelming. In literature, too: I want to try The Wheel of Time, but it is so long now I am not prepared to commit. This does make me wonder though, just how did Warhorse worked it all in. I mean, Baldur's Gate 3 has incredible variations, but Kingdom Come 2 is a comparatively linear RPG (I mean, yeah, not completely, but we need to admit it does have much less variety). And yet, their plots are both so long.

[DracoTarot]

@DoctorEldritch, maybe you can watch the Wheel of Time series if you haven't already done so, then decide if you are keen to commit.

I guess it's all about commitment. Warhorse cares enough to ensure the end product is up to standard and appealing. Going into the finer details is the way to go, even if it takes ages to complete. Builders Gate is a good example of a game living up to standards.

[DoctorEldritch]

@DracoTarot I read reviews that it is not that good and strays away from the books? I prefer to read books before watching usually, too.

Commitment is a good thing, I just worry, that with sizes like this, we may reach a point where gamers may be too intimidated to try games like this. "I only wanted a couple of hours of easy fun, not commitment to 80+ hours of story worth 25 novels" type of thinking. I sort of have it with longer series like FF now myself, hard to get into them now that they got so big.

Of course, games have much variety, so it is not likely to be a big issue, it's just my thoughts on the subject.

[DracoTarot]

@DoctorEldritch, I also prefer tpo read the book first. So many things are left out when they produce movies and series based on the book; it's not worth watching.

That's where I'm different to other gamers. I'd rather enjoy a game taking months to complete than fishing it within a few hours or days.

Each to their own, I suppose.😊

[DoctorEldritch]

@DracoTarot Oh, I would not say that, some series do a decent job of adhering to the source material, though it happens quite rarely, admittedly. I think Happy is the one I liked most in that regard (1st season, that is). But generally, assessing how well a series followed source material is part of the fun, up to a certain point.

Months to complete can be good for something worthwhile, it could just be that I set my standards too high...

[DracoTarot]

@DoctorEldritch Some do and with a series it's possible to follow and adhere to source material. The issue mostly is with movies. If the movie can be split into parts then yeah it's possible I guess but if there's no budget for it then they cram everything in and leave out material.

I make sure the game I choose will be worthwhile before spending months on it. I started playing Dungeon Siege 3 yesterday while I'm still busy with Torchlight. I needed a little veriaty in my life.

[DoctorEldritch]

@DracoTarot Movies can never really follow a book, I'd say. Too much of a difference in volume and format. Narnia and Harry Potter have that too, one of the reasons how they justified making that new series now. Lord of The Rings trilogy is famously a praised book adaptation, but even then they had to cut and change a lot...

Dungeon Siege 3, that's a blast from the past. What made you choose that one?

[DracoTarot]

@DoctorEldritch They sort of succeeded with the Lord of the Rings bit. Yeah, a lot was left out. And most Stephen King novels are spot-on. The Hobbit movies were 98% similar to the books.


I chose Dungeon Siege 3 because it's one of those games I rushed. The game is also enjoyable, and I do not have to be online all the time to play.