[DoctorEldritch]

@ZaidH If you give me a few days, we could start Yakuza 6 together, it is the next one on my list!

[DoctorEldritch]

@ZaidH I know developers say that, but honestly, at times keyboard is better there. I'd say the keyboard is best for exploration and the controller is better for combat.

And that Telephone game is easier with mouse aim, though it was tedious to do still, that's true. Took me about 2 hours to get all the substories out of it.

Trainers are sort of like cheat codes, yes. In this case, there is one that would make Disco high score highest possible regardless of how well you actually dance. Tempting the dark side is.

About Kiryu's substories, the one about dominatrix training comes to mind. But the "Miracle Johnson cameo" stories also come to mind. And the mushroom seller guy.

[ZaidH]

Oooh nice! Please don't rush through Y0 though to start Y6. Gotta savor the experience. I'll play some other game in the meantime 😀

I'm new to PC gaming, so I was fumbling hard when playing the game with a keyboard 😭 But yeah exploration heavy and FPS games seems to be made to play with a KB/M.


Ooookay I'm sold on the trainer 😤 Might try this in Y6 😈

Mushroom merchant is peak Yakuza experience lmfao 😂 God I wish the merchant and that mafia dude are featured again in Like a Dragon.

[DoctorEldritch]

@ZaidH I am getting there, I am done with most Majima substories now and his Cabaret Czar bit, only need to train all the platinum to get to those host girl substories. Takes a bit of time, though, because you can only train before the club work session, and those take about 5 min each. Seems short enough, but they add up.

My experience is in reverse, I struggle to learn controllers now. Hollow Knight will help, I hope, when I try it with a controller, though I may just wait till SilkSong is out. Same with Dead Cells, I thought they were done, but now they went and announced Castelvania DLC. worth a look, I guess. I wonder if Assassin's Creed is a good game to learn controller, after I am done with Chronicles I'll need to play Origins, maybe I'll start with the controller there.

As for the trainer, remains to be seen about Yakuza 6. I am hoping they will not tie progress to minigames like that or, at least, lower the threshold to progress. A bit of minigame to progress is not a bad thing, like those friendships tied to arcade games in Yakuza 0, I did not like that, but it was doable. But that disco is really a wall I can't climb. But trainers can do more than that, like cheats, give you unlimited money or health or Saitama power to defeat anyone with One Punch. It is important not to abuse it or the game becomes boring.

Though that may merit a whole separate discussion, for example, I am not against mods at times at all. When I played Dragon Age Inquisition, those who played may remember that it had this mechanic where you needed to give your agents some tasks on War Table and you then needed to wait in actual real-world time for them to complete (something like 18-24 hours). There I used the mod to make those instantaneous same as scouting missions. And my conscience was clear because seriously.

Well, Yakuza 0 takes place 1988/1989, and Yakuza Like a Dragon is set in 2019, 30 years after, so...we may see Mushroom and Mafia dude's descendants, maybe?

[ZaidH]

I'm struggling with a controller as well 😫 I have a Dualshock 4 controller and non-steam games usually (from my limited knowledge) don't have input mapping support for it. Imagine playing that Y0 disco minigame with Xbox prompts on-screen while using the PS4 controller 😩

Hollow Knight is slightly on the harder side, so yeah AC Origins sounds perfect for a full controller playthrough.

Y6 substories can remain uncompleted if it also has annoying tied minigames. One might actually complete games like AC Chronicles in that time lols. I'm new to mods and trainers, so imma cling to my dear save files for now. One punching Amon with a bald Kiryu does sound tempting though 😁

Andraste's breath! How dare you use a mod!!! I would've done the same if I played DA: I on PC 😌

Imagine if mushroom dude's offsprings are master public speakers and they get to level up Ichiban's stats 😄

[DoctorEldritch]

@ZaidH It actually surprised me how Yakuza was ported for the Xbox controller because it was originally made for PS one. I imagine it is not comfortable to use a PS controller with Xbox prompts, but using a keyboard is no picnic either. I mean, would it have killed them to port it to num lock buttons (8456) instead of that ijkl nonsense?

With Hollow Knight, I like that it is 2-dimensional. So may be easier with a controller as you only need to navigate on a flat screen, going left or right, not forward or backward. With AC it may be more challenging to navigate, maybe? I don't know.

I always finish all Yakuza substores in every game to get access to Amon secret boss. More so in Yakuza 6 because it is the culmination of Kiryu's story and presumably the final confrontation with Amon clan for him, and Amon is one of the most constant characters in those games, he is in every one of those. So I want to see it through to the end but remains to be seen how they did it with substories there.

As for bald Kiryu one-punching Amon, well, there is a mode for one-hit-kill already that I told you about. And, there is also a mod for this:



So yeah, your wish is my command, but be careful what you wish for.

Originally Posted by ZaidH

Andraste's breath! How dare you use a mod!!! I would've done the same if I played DA: I on PC 😌

I am the Andrastedamn Inquisitor with a magic hand. I can do what I want.

Is it different on PS with that War Table thing?

I think it is more probable that his offspring is selling "special" mushrooms but everyone misunderstands and thinks they are normal mushrooms, that'd be a nice twist.

[ZaidH]

Wait, so the movement is tied to IJKL? Or is it just for the karaoke and disco stuff?

So yeah Hollow Knight is definitely easier with a controller (at least for me), the game itself though is slightly on the harder side 😅 Precise jumps, dodging enemy strikes and all that jazz. That said, exploring the extremely foreign world of Hollow Knight with a tool you aren't used to yet might be a great experience in itself 😄

Lols that mod looks perfect 😂 The empty lot was Kiryu's head all along!

Did you hear that? That's the sound of Cassandra approaching! Run for your life ya blight spawn!!!

That war table thingy is the same on consoles 😭 Never paid much attention to it tbh. Banter with the fellow party members took precedence whenever I was in Skyhold.

Lmao yep that would be great twist indeed 😂

[DoctorEldritch]

@ZaidH Just for karaoke and disco, but that's plenty unnatural.

One of the things I find challenging at this time is that if I started to play with mous+keyboard, but then try to switch to the controller, I feel odd and need to learn again. All the functions you already know are suddenly new. So I thought that, instead of trying to play with a controller right now (as I got it), it might be better to wait until I need to start some new game and start that one with a controller from scratch. That way, all the tutorials and initial "muscle conditioning" would be for a controller and make it easier. Hollow Knight was one such candidate, even though I played it before. Though Silksong is coming, too.

Heh, yeah, the dragon of Dojima has scales of shining brilliance.

Oh, I know how to deal with Cassandra. I have the complete "Swords and Shields" series. Signed, even.

War Table clashed with the completionist in me, I wanted to do all of it, but it would require me to play the game longer than it actually took to finish all the quests. And it seriously felt like a mechanic designed to forcefully increase play time, I do not like it when developers do that. So mod it was.

[DoctorEldritch]

@ZaidH I am done with Yakuza 0 now.

[ZaidH]

That's a sound plan! You'll probably be a pro at using the controller by the time Silksong will come out. That game can't come soon enough 😣

Lmao Cassandra will probably go rogue if Varric ever stops writing the books 😂

Originally Posted by DoctorEldritch

@ZaidH I am done with Yakuza 0 now.

That's rad!!! Do share your favorite moments from the game. Also details on what your reactions were during that Kuze sewer fight 😤 Where does this game rank on your Yakuza tier list 😄?